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OK, all good points, with a fair amount of logic thrown in. So I think I've come up with a revised version:
Marler, Mears, Palmer, Johnson, Care, Flood & Joseph.
But I wonder what SL et al will come up with..? Youth vs experience? Solid vs flair? Old stalwarts vs Baptism of fire?
(Starting to get a little excited now chaps...)
Posted 09:56 07th June 2012
Mmm thats a real step up for Marler, I can't see him starting but should make the bench, but this tour could see him rise to the top if he can knuckle down and graft against a very physical team. Browns a good call, he deserves it. They will also start with Tuilagi and Barret, just to settle in, but they have to bring on some invention at some time. Haven't got to see Fearns much, so it wouldn't suprise me if Johnson starts. Caution will prevail and Wade won't start but be on the bench, there may be some suprises on the wings, based on defensive capabilities, especially in recovery and kicking. Hopefully though we will see Lancaster blood a few of the potentials in the second half. It will be interesting to see if The Beast manages to drive straight and forward in the sets. If he goes with Dowson then we will know for sure is is going for his own tried and tested.
Posted 07:45 07th June 2012
Like your picks especially the front 5 which has enough snarl and attitude needed in SA. I suppose Botha being a SA does help us.
Its the wing option that concerns me, I hear what your saying about Strettle but what other options have we got out there ? Good point about Brown at 15, he does bring a different dynamic to the side and is the type of player to get under the Boks skins and make them give penalties away.
Posted 07:38 07th June 2012
You are a bonehead mate, (an impressive six nations campaign is winning every game easily)
See how easy it is for oz to beat the welsh this Saturday!!
Posted 04:38 07th June 2012
@jonesy2 no an impressive 6 nations campaign is a record first 3 away wins ever with a squad made up of mostly non caps and Charlie hodgson...I mean we were missing about 4 first choice players for most of the tournament...(tuilagi for 2 games, wood for 5, Lawes for 4.5 and Care for 5) and didn't play several first choice/experienced/better players (Flood, Haskell and Wade to name a few). Not to mention our young Front row came into their own against Scotland, Italy, France and Ireland not to mention for the first time in 9 years our only counterattacking threat wasn't from Foden or Delon Armitage it was from all the backs...
Posted 21:03 06th June 2012
Like that team. Tuilagi has been a touch off form and I'd start Barritt plus Joseph with Manu on bench with Flood and Care. I'd have Foden on wing with Ashton and Brown at 15. Foden and Brown can mix it a bit. With Saf kicking game having them both drop back for the high ball and counter would be sweat. No way is Wade ready.
Up front I like it a lot but Johnson or Dowson for Fearns.
Love all the soft pre-match... Theyre going to try and beat England up, big time. Hopefully no excuses there if they get yellows. That's another reason for having Manu on the bench for first half. They'll be niggling him and Hartley. Youngs must start. He can at times give England an electric start and I think just hit peak form end of last game he played.
Posted 19:54 06th June 2012
I like the team but doubt it'll be that. I expect it'll be the same team that played against Ireland, but with Dowson at 6, and Johnson and Marler on the bench.
Also, didn't Sharples get injured? I like Wade and Joseph but I don't want to throw them into the deep end straight away. Let them play the first mid-week game, and if they impress then promote them to the first team for the last test.
Posted 17:44 06th June 2012
@ melkdave - the centres and Fearns were where I had the most trouble. I liked the Barritt : Tuilagi partnership, but they lacked flair and creativity. And I opted for Tuilagi over Barritt, as he has a little more in attack, over Barritt's awesome defence. Fearns is just because of my Bath bias, to be honest, and Johnston did have a good game against the Baa-Baas!
Wade is another wild-card for me, but I think he offers more to the future than Strettle and we don't seem to have heard from Sharples for a while.
Posted 15:56 06th June 2012
@ jonesy2 - nope. An impressive tournament is doing better than expected and England did exactly that.
Scotland's win over Oz was impressive,although far from easy.
Posted 15:02 06th June 2012
Nice team ,but i feel that Johnston will start in place of Fearns ,his form this season has been outstanding ,and he impressed me in the Barbarains game ,with his tempo and ball carrying ect.I also think that while Tulagi and Joseph will be the center pairing in the future ,for this tour SL will go with Barrit partnering Tulagi.Still a nice team though .Good calls on Marler and Brown though
Posted 14:56 06th June 2012
No matter how tired you are England, the South Africans have just had 15 weeks of Super Rugby under the belt - and all played in derbies last Saturday... At the moment they are more tired and more bruised than you are. This particular Sprinbok team have also never played together - only the front row and the 9/10 axis are an established unit - the locks, back row, centres and back three have never played together as a unit... and some of them have simply never played with each other. Bismarck, Eben Etzebeth and Juandre Kruger have never played together either, so their line-outs won't be the strong weapon it normally is.... etc.
You should get it out of your minds that you're playing the Springboks of old. Yes, they'll be physical - but they have a new coach, new players, new combinations - and they've only had a few days together. You have an entire 6 Nations together - you have momentum, confidence and cohesion on your side... and even though you might feel tired, you're fresher than them too.
You need to approach this game knowing that you can beat them - you just need to play with intensity and do the basics right, then you will win. Expose the holes that will be there in defense, score tries, then hold onto the ball and defend well - and be patient... the penalties will come if you apply the pressure. Zane Kirchner, Morné Steyn, Pierre Spies, Juandre Kruger and Willem Alberts are the weak links on defense.
Posted 14:42 06th June 2012
I think I'd prefer Mr Angry at 15, with Foden on the bench to cover 15 and wing.
No-one's doubting his ability, I just think Brown's been the form 15 recently and brings a certain "unique mentality" to a game, which I think we'll need against the Saffas.
Youngs / Care
Posted 14:10 06th June 2012
impressive six nations campaign? they didnt even win it. an impressive six nations campaign is winning every game easily.
Posted 13:58 06th June 2012
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